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LARRY: At the beginning of a line--
INTERVIEWER: Could you hold it up so that the camera could see it?
LARRY: You cut this out like that for your well so it'll fit. And let me cut it all. We'll just say I measured that. Have a little bit. Yeah, I'll put it together like that and I would wire it. The next section would come in right here. And if I had--like I say if I had that piece of--say a T coming through here. I never thought I'd be doing this again.
INTERVIEWER: During your career as an insulator, how often did you do this?
LARRY: Hundreds of times, thousands of times.
INTERVIEWER: When you were using the insulation when you first started that contained asbestos, did cutting, for example, the pipe covering to length create dust?
LARRY: Yeah.
INTERVIEWER: Did cutting out a half circle like that for a pipe at the end of the T create dust?
LARRY: Yeah.
INTERVIEWER: And could you hold that up so the camera could see it, so it's visible? What if that hole was too big? Let's say the pipe was only an inch and you did not measure twice cut once, so the hole was too big. What, what would you do to, to fix that problem?
LARRY: I'd go ahead and wire it on but I'd fill it all in with mud.
The first thing I would do if I was putting this block on a wall, you'd have, you'd have them little clips welded on there and my, and my wires and if they was on 12 centers or 18 or whatever, but I'd put this up there where it's going and I'd mash this in to the clip where it showed me where the wires was.
These would be the marks that the clips would make to show me where to put my holes where I could bring my wires through to hold it on. And you'd have, like I said, about four, four to six wires coming through here. You need a good sized. And there's what you would end up with and you can stick your wires through there.
INTERVIEWER: Could you turn it around so that the--it's visible to the camera? And is that a similar process, what you just demonstrated, to the way you made those holes in the block that contained asbestos when you first started insulating?
LARRY: Yeah. Yeah, there's no difference in what--how you did it.
It looks like Rockwool [phonetic] mud. But I think it's Rockwool. No, it could be one coat. I think that may be one coat. And--
INTERVIEWER: Could you show that to the--what's, what's that's like inside?
LARRY: I don't know what--you get it?
MALE VOICE: Yes, sir.
LARRY: Okay. And if you were going to use this mud... And you would add water to this and mix it up and that's what you would--I would seal my holes with and seal all my cracks, wherever, to seal it all up. Yeah, you can put three or four or five bags of mud. Well, go with three or four, and--
INTERVIEWER: And similar to this when you dump the mud in from those--
LARRY: Well I just--
INTERVIEWER: --large bags--
LARRY: Well I-
INTERVIEWER: --did you ever try--Larry, did you ever try having water in the mud trough first?
LARRY: Yeah, yeah, you could do it. But still when that mud--when this here hits that water it just still clouds all up. I mean if I took this, rest of this here and just dumped it right here, well it, it'd just cloud this whole room up probably.
